The real reason Boeing's new plane WSJ: Pilots followed Boeing 1 day ago   06:00

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Two Boeing airplanes have fallen out of the air and crashed in the past six months. On the surface, this is a technical failure. But the real story is about a company's desire to beat their rival.

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werewolf5674
That what I alway understood the problem to be.
Gus
In my country, this is called murderous negligence. Boeing lost its ethical compass. CEO's that play with financial statements go to prison. What should happen to CEO's that play with human lives for greed? Firing the CEO is not enough. He should spend time in prison for his crimes.
Ron B.
It is amazing how many people join in the condemnation of a company when they are totally ignorant of what the real causes of these two crashes are. Vox sounds as if he is an expert in aerodynamics, but any intelligent pilot knows that raising the thrustline of an airplane decreases the upward pitching moment, NOT increases it. These accidents were essentially analogous to a runaway nose down trim situation. Pilots have been trained to handle this situation since the 1960s, when I started my 30 year career with a major USA airline, after flying supersonic fighter jets in the USAF for 6 years. The malfunctioning MCAS did NOT cause any USA pilots to crash, because it can be overcome. The main mistake made by Boeing was not using both angle of attack sensors inputs into the MCAS. These sensors are located on both sides of the forward fuselage, and can be damaged by collision with a catering truck, stairs, or jetbridge. Could it be that these sensors were damaged and unnoticed by the pilots on their walkaround inspection, if they even made one?
the liar king
airbus have had many teething problems with new planes, its not a boeing thing only. many people learn more about aviation only from crashes, and not before. people shouldnt assume all airbus planes are now safe, im going on a boeing 757 soon, they have a great safety record.
Elon Mustard
You don't really reveal a scandal here, just motivation for being competitive in sales. The real scandal is the FAA and DERs not properly performing the safety analysis and adhering to the strict redundancy rules they put in place years ago.
Miller Werth
I will deliberately check the model of plane and will not buy the ticket if it is a max. Obviously the plane has structural issues and they tried to fix that by a software. That’s it, i have zero trust. I will do the same for all new planes of Boeing.
Dhawal Kumar
And A320neo has 0 fatalities for now
Rob Rob
Greedy yank Bastards need to pay for this crime!!!!!! Boycott!!!!!!!!! Ty for this video!!!!
Dr. Citizen Brain
Buy Airbus
dan taylor
In 1969 humans put a man on the moon, 50 years later we're simply re hashing engines and call it an update. This is piss poor engineering. I think the kids of the 1960's would be so pissed off with this snail paced advancement. We should be shifting millions of passengers at mach 5 by now piss poor, simply piss poor.
basebrat64
i saw a picture being held up of a dead muslim. cool.
clomagro
Everyone in the world should know, U.S. companies don't care about people, or their lives. Only money. They always find a way to blame something else. Hell the U.S was the last country to ground the planes. Shows how much they care about it's own citizens. Money is all that matters.
Tom Jones
Boeing will hopefully be SUED INTO OBLIVION over this exercise in FRAUD and GROSS NEGLIGENCE 😡😡😡
Shantanu Mathur
Hundreds died because of Greed . yet no one from Boing will even send 1 day in jail , such is our justice system.
Adam Klein
"The real reason Boeing's new plane crashed twice"

the REAL reason - the pilots were trash, did not follow Boeing procedures, poor CRM, poor threat and error management, poor aeronautical decision making. You want to read about good pilots, Qantas 72. Bad pilots, Colgan 3407. Worse pilots Air France 447.
Valentins Tag
And this is why Airbus is better, they don't take a risk, they just do the work and if it's not more used, they kill the prdoctline like the A380. And don't sell rubbish again!
Lusade Devron
This is beyond evil. why has there not been a class action lawsuit?
Mc
Couldn't they of just made the wheels and landing gear bigger instead of moving the engine up?
J P
What's the deal with everybody shoes and wallets lined up in matching order? Where's the people why aren't there shoes on their feet? Why aren't their wallets and IDs on their person? Just like the Titanic when they found it there were no bodies anywhere just a bunch of shoes and luggage. Kind of like the flight in Pennsylvania on 9/11 no bodies were ever found no bones no teeth... Wake up people
Ahmet Baydar
Uhm. Another great American Company. Come on guys. Americans doesn't care money. Quality, safety and future of the earth are the most important things for them. Ops... Iraq is different story. Oil doesn't means money. They don't kill people for money or oil. Yes, yes... I'm sure. Dear Donald Trump. I'm starting to save money to buy a Boeing 737 Max for you. Please use it everyday.
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WSJ: Pilots followed Boeing The real reason Boeing's new plane 1 day ago   06:03

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The Wall Street Journal, citing sources familiar with the preliminary investigation, says Ethiopian Airlines pilots initially followed emergency procedures outlined by Boeing. Despite their actions, the pilots were unable to gain control of the Boeing 737 Max 8. CNN has not been able to independently confirm the report. CNN's Tom Foreman goes into the virtual room, meanwhile Brianna Keilar discusses with former NTBS Managing Director Peter Goelz. #CNN #News

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